If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. Shoulda been a dishonorable. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. I had the surgery in august of 2014. Any advice? Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. It may not display this or other websites correctly. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. Yes. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. Option 2: Lie. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Alright, you've got me interested. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). Lying will. I'm certain they won't be. Press J to jump to the feed. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. I told him "no" because I did disclose everything with him if asked. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. MEPS, short for Military Entrance Processing, rolled out a new system yesterday called MHS Genesis. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). HELP!!! Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? This is my reaction as I am. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. I lied at meps . She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. All Rights Reserved. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Just something to think of. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. or "Do you have a history of depression? Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Am I? This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. She said a recent one had about 30 pages regarding the procedure. You were torn and want to be honest. He. If you are 100% sure that both are non-issues and you can perform without them holding you back, then just don't mention it. Below are abstractions of a true stories. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. You must log in or register to reply here. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. (Navy). I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. What is the worst that can happen? TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. She got counseling for the suicide gesture and related stress, which eventually resolved, and she again received more counseling for anger management a few years later (this was what the BMT medics discovered). Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. One new winner* is announced every week! Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. They are looking for consistency". From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. Same with another section. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. It does not belong to any particular service division. The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Cookie Notice By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. HELP!!!! So what are the lessons from these stories? Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it's a no go or not . There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. : r/USMCboot. 4,250. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" Know what makes you a poor candidate. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? Anyone with any experience or advice? Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. 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