Brooks camp would also increase the amount of human encounters. So he decided to go back to their campsite which they had never stayed so long before. Great article on a harrowing reminder to respect nature. Sadly, Ammie trusted and was with an idiot California nut that got what he deserved. When a bear comes into a camp, especially at night, we know that this is not a typical bear encounter but a bear that has possibly been conditioned to humans and human food, trash, or an older bear no longer able to feed on natural foods as efficiently, and we know that bears sometimes came into Tims camp at night during previous summer excursions. (Liggett 2003). Thank you! Tim also writes in his diary that Amie believes he is hell bent on destruction and that this will be her last season in Alaska with him, leaving him for good, and that she was looking forward to starting a new job and desperate to return to California. As a mother of a wonderful son who's had his own issueswhere was his mother in his extreme time of need? He sees himself as a naturalist and loves the outdoors. The two were probably getting ready for other scenes when the unexpected incident occurred. Votes: 13 24.1% Throw Salt on the Boyfriend, Run Like Hell! As for Aimee, she was educated, probably intelligent, and perhaps successful in her field, but those factors have never precluded naivete. Amie then walks over to Tim, and based on training in the hospital no doubt told Tim to lay still, but is then tested and driven away by the bear, and at this point in the attack I believe Tim realized that this was not a typical bear encounter, and that playing dead was not going to work and the wrong response, yelling at Amie to hit the bear!. When you hear the bears roar they are clearly closer to the camera than the screaming indicating a poor audio dubbing As i was increasingly fooled by repeats of the footage, I started to renounce my skepticism a little by saying maybe a second bear was wandering close to the camera as the other bear ate him because there are somewhat more distant roars in the footage too. Brooks camp, a well known and heavily used fly in fishing camp is 60 air miles from Tim and Amies camp. Apparently either Tim had asked Amie to turn the camera on, or Amie just turned it on out of reflex. Knowing that both tents were knocked down, the contents, including open snack food, as well as their neatly placed shoes discovered untouched in the sleeping tent, sends chills down my back when I think about it, and I have often woke in the middle of the night drenched in a cold sweat knowing that Amie had retreated to the main tent as Tim was being dragged kicking and screaming away from camp. After he was discharged from the hospital, Tim decided to travel to Alaska and watch bears at the urging of Terry. Without discussion. He claimed he wouldn't die by "paws" and "claws." Nothing wrong with that, but perhaps he was always disappointed that he wasn't more of an action hero, and deliberately put himself in dangerous situations to prove that idea wrong. In fact tim would shit just how aware those bears were of his stash should have been up in tree with a rope at least 50 yards from his campsite. Ranger Gilliland states that he was standing at the top of the knoll about 10 feet from the mound containing Amie, looking around when he spots a large bear about 15 feet away walking up the same trail they had just hiked up, and the same trail that rangers Ellis and Dalrymple had just walked down. What's just as interesting is what happened after he died. 2003 Park Service Incident Report; pages 1-9. Yes, the cubs are so cute but not your friends. The harder garbage is to dispose of, and in this case all garbage had to be flown out by plane, the easier and more available it is for bears in the area to get to. With a previous girlfriend, Jewel Palovak, he wrote his 1997 book Among Grizzlies: Living With Wild Bears in Alaska. Together they began Grizzly People, a non-profit group devoted to educating people, especially children, about bears and as a way to fund his travels to Alaska. Have no love for rattlers either. as much as i would love to feed a bear & show them affection, i know that in doing so i could inadvertently harm the bear, or a human. Whittlesey, Lee H. 1995, Death in Yellowstone, Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park: Roberts Rinehart Publishers. The chilling final moments of Timothy and his girlfriend were captured on tape as they were mauled to death by a brown bear. How many times have each of seen a dog take the food and go away a short distance, where it feels safer? If Tim did provide basic information on visitor use, boat and plane traffic, as well as weather information, I would argue that it was more in passing during incidental conversation, and not with official record keeping. Likewise, we know from Tims diary that Amie was frightened of bears. Better yet educating people on what tim did wrong with his own story? Was it mainly due to being orphaned so young? Who are you? If they had gotten on the plane that day he would have been alive. As a person who grew up in Calgary, we are taught from an early age that bears are not your friends. Cute doesn't mean that it won't cause you pain. Son u obviously ain't never been to Alaska cause your dead wrong dead dead dead wrong u can carry a gun. I've seen the movie "Grizzly Man" and enjoyed it. The young gets to the age where, they will Challenge the older, leaders for Authority if he beaten he kick out the Clan. I just believe it has been edited. I really loved this article. There are no pictures from Timothy Treadwell's death. Screw them. I watched the doc. Grizzly bears are wild animals and should always be treated as such, wild and unpredictable. Audio Recording of the death of Timothy Treadwell, "The Grizzly Man". That Sony camera has two mics, one in the camera and another remote mic on Treadwell jacket. I believe as a child he was molested. I read that Bart II one of Seus's grizzly cubs as another movie trained male adult bearand one can say that luck was the reason Bart never harmed a soul but if it was, in fact, sheer luck as to why Bart never harmed a soul then why, too are Bart II and his sister still running the course of their now adult lives with the same statistics? Is there any pictures of the aftermath? Why did he seem so blatantly gay or bi-sexual while being adamant that he wasnt? (Herrero 1985, et al). Timothy Treadwell knew these things, but he decided to do what he did anyway. But in my opinion, you could have been quite a bit harsher of Idiot Treadwell. Cue her trying to use the tents to create separation when the bear comes after her.Lastly, for the well and truly discomforting part, your report of fractured canine teeth and some others ground down, so perhaps took the bear longer to kill them (owing to less efficient bites)(or maybe they both got lucky)(maybe that bear had a fondness for carotid or femoral artery). I find it unbelievable for such thing to happen, to be eaten alive. I can say without a doubt that is a Horrible way to go from all Ive researched, I like you , hope Amie didnt have to endure what Tim did. They should of enforced the regulations better and not allow someone as reckless as Tim back in the park. There were a lot of questions in my head.thanks to this article im clear.the only question i have is what really happened to Amy?why she die? Treadwell was, and did, none of these. Herzog is presented on-screen, sitting in front of Treadwell's long-time friend, and former girlfriend, Jewel Palovak. I've read just about everything about this incident and it really just sums up to a delusional man with "no family", claiming to protect bears, gets himself killed and his gf and two bears because he doesn't understand nor respects wild life. Remember a cover is nice but a cover is not the book.. You did a well written report and most of us appreciate it. A threat to the males. Being trained as a physicians assistant, it is believed that Amie made her way to Tim, and from the sounds caught on tape, the bear returns and Amie is forced to back off. Ignoring and shunning the more aggressive and confrontational side of humanity and falling back on a kind of Disney perception of right and wrong. He was quite sad to hear of Dave's passing - he learned of it in 2014. If Tim was working closely with the park service, why did he feel the need to hide his camps from them? Author: educationdocbox.com. It is not benefiting from death, but rather valuing life. I got curious when I came across Tim and Amies tragic story. There is a possibility, as well as some speculation, that wilder unknown bears from the interior had possibly moved in, forcing out the bears Tim was used to seeing and interacting with each year. Timothy Treadwell (born Timothy William Dexter; April 29, 1957 - October 5, 2003) was an American bear enthusiast, environmentalist, documentary filmmaker, and founder of the bear-protection organization Grizzly People. According to his book Among Grizzlies, during this period he continued to indulge in alcohol and drugs and finally overdosed on heroin and cocaine in the late 1980s, and was rescued by a Vietnam vet named Terry, whom he had become close to. I hope that you use it! Duh. My problem was to try to get them NOT to run away so I could watch, but, as I said, that could only happen if they couldn't see me.None of this can be said for grizzly bears. After a few minutes, I decided to get up and walk across the meadow, only to have the whole family follow along beside me. Fulton, Willy. I am impressed with your work. I feel as you do, he did much more damage than good for the bears he was studying. As for the recording, I believe its real. Others will find it interesting, informative and hopefully educational. The sound of Amie screaming very loudly, as Tim is clearly heard over the sounds of the storm, saying Amie get away, get away, go away. 175pp. Hello !I looked into a doku about a photographer from Switzerland, which has been spending a lot of time in Alasca, filming bears in this doku i heard about Tim and Amie and afterwards i wanted to know more i am thankful for your words and that you gave Amie "a place" in this story its tragic, i think she knew what was going on but we all know, what love has to do with it he has had no fear that is important to understand this ending of 2 lifes very sad and brutal but he was the only one to make choices, after regarding that special bear i am very sad about the death of Tim and Amie but i am thankful, you brought YOUR thoughts into the internet, so i can try do understand, what has happened ! I truly understand human fascination with wild life. Additionally, the audio release on YouTube and Reddit has not been verified as being authentic, raising the possibility that it is a fake. Ranger Ellis fires 11 times while rangers Gilliland and Dalrymple each fire 5 times, dropping the bear 12 feet away. This reminded me of that young "missionary" who was killed by some time he delusionally wanted to convert.I never heard of Treadwell before seeing him in some random Facebook comment on a stupid video about cute cuddly bears being just like humans. She trusted TT, against her own instincts towards the end, and sadly paid the ultimate price.Great article about a sad and fascinating event. All I wanted to do is listen to the six minute audio of Mr. Treadwell being eaten alive. 318pp. Willy Fulton states; Tim was a little smarter than most people gave him credit for. A scream. 2003, Treadwell Incident Review Board Member. Grizzly Man chronicles the life and death of bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell, who was killed, along with his girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, by a rogue bear in October 2003.In one of the most extremeand ultimately tragicexperiments in human-animal cohabitation ever attempted, for 13 consecutive summers, Treadwell lived (and finally died) among the bears at an Alaskan national park. I told him that if we had any more violations from him we would petition the U.S. magistrate to ban him from the park,. The footage that he himself shot forms the core of this fascinating inquiry into the fragile relationship between man and nature. I originally had thoughts of turning this into a book, but after much thought and consideration, I decided that in doing so, I would be profiting from someones death. In the summer of 2005, Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man made a minor celebrity of Timothy Treadwell, a man alternately seen as either a reckless crank or a naive idealist. Whew. But I don't really think so, I think he was just the Average, Common Ass, Garden Variety Insanely ARROGANT, Narcissistic Human Privileged American- Dangerously Clueless, all the while THINKING He actually has a Clue, when everyone around him KNOWS he Truly does not know the difference between Shit and Shine-ola. (Gaede 2005, et al), Tim and Amies friends have also speculated that bear #141 was an abused bear, because it had been previously trapped, tranquilized and tattooed, and that the bear had actually hunted Tim and Amie that night, and came for them. Because the bear did not appear to be acting aggressively, the rangers allowed it to move off. (Ellis 2003, pg 2)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_2',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-large-leaderboard-2-0'); Willy advises the rangers that there is only room for one plane to park near the camp and climbs into the park service Cessna for the quick taxi to the south shore. Hi Mr. Sanders,Thank you for the thorough research and analysis. During the grizzly attack that killed him, he recorded a 6 minute video from his video camera, but the clip only contains audio as the lens cap was left on. The sound of a tent zipper is then heard and the tent flap opening. I suppose that is my payment for knowing too much information, and being able to fill in the blanks. Please visit our friends at AmericanBetting.org for a guide on legalized sports betting in the US. Admire from a safe distance and be respectful. When I encounter a bear I instantly & CALMLY get a weapon ready & look for the safest route away from the bear as Im evaluating the bears behaviour. The berry crop was also reported poor by U.S. Forest Service and U.S. And be aware that yes, in the woods, you will potentially run into the animals that live and thrive there, just like you may in the ocean. Lotta speculation in this article. I hope that she never does. Fallico, Dr. There are several ways to determine whether one of these recordings is real or not. He was in a manic cycle which I think he liked and made sure to push himself into one during bear season. Thank you for putting this story up with your own insightful input.If you see a black mama bear racing towards you and your heart beat doesn't change, you are an abnormal human being.I you glanced around and saw a grizzly bear at a distance and your heart does not stop for a moment, you are a very abnormal human being.If additionally, you attempted to go and manipulate the behaviour of those wild animals in order to have them coexist with you, you must be crazily delusional.Many delusional people go in life not having their delusion proven to them. (Tim Treadwell)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-2','ezslot_13',130,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-2-0'); The true hero of this sad tale is of course Amie Huguenard, the one person in this saga that we know so little about. I do like the Grizzly Man movie but I feel his friends acted way too much to show empathy or their true feelings for Tim. Thank you for writing and sharing this amazing article. A sobering thought for someone like myself. That must have hurt his family something awful. Jewel states that no bears were poached while Tim was in Katmai, but that after he died 6 bears were poached within the park. (Treadwell 1997)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-box-4','ezslot_6',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-box-4-0'); Mark Emery, a wildlife filmmaker and outdoor guide first saw Treadwell from the air in the early 1990s. Did Treadwell have a special connection with the bears? Wildlife filmmaker and outdoor guide. Modesto, CA, Professor of Animal Science, Michigan State University. Maybe it was willful ignorance but having so many close calls leads me to think that although he didn't intentionally cause Amie's death he certainly contributed to it and failed to protect her from the bears.If TT were still alive I believe he would want us all to focus on the extremely threatened polar bears and to help them survive after man has melted the sea ice that the bears use to catch their prey, seals. After watching the special airing of the movie Grizzly Man on the Discovery Channel February 4, 2006. But when his mauled remains were discovered, the legend began to unravel. Photo by Willie Fulton, courtesy Nick Jans. Habituation to humans results in loss of fear. He's a great lost. (Ellis 2003, pg 3). The one thing I would like to know more about is why did Tim say he had no family. Treadwell, Tim. The fact that he was not killed earlier, just goes to prove that grizzly bears really want nothing to do with humans and would rather avoid us whenever possible, but will tolerate us, to a point. But fail to study, learn,about their ways, Behaviors,thats a must before Confronting the objects. Buuutthis is America, no bear spray, no heavy tools, nothing. Why would she as far away from it as he is? The more time you spend with grizzly bears increases the chances that the bear will someday get you. At any rate, the attack was in progress when the camera was turned on. The older, larger bear that killed Tim and Amie had been ear tagged in 1990 after the Valdez-Alaska oil spill as part of a larger research project, and had the number 141 tattooed on the inside of its upper lip. He committed suicide by bear. Only Tim, and of course Amie for trusting Tim, but then who can really say? He probably had a de-ja-vu feeling of inevitability. Just recently I was given access to the first 2 minutes of the 6 minute tape. Bear 141, even with missing teeth, could have shaken Timothy once and broken his neck. I dont believe this for a minute. This is the best article I have found on the tragedy of Treadwell and his girlfriend. Documented video shot by Tim of him feeding the fox has been uncovered. (Long 2002, McMillion 1998, Herrero 1985, et al)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-4','ezslot_11',122,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-4-0'); Had Amie aggressively fought off the bear after she got to Tim, would she have been able to save him and herself? Later, as the helicopter was being loaded, a second smaller bear approximately 3 years old seemed to be stalking the rangers and it was shot and killed as well. (Hechtel 2003). The next voice is from Timothy as he screams Get out here! Your words and story help others even though it would include lessons from others. Ranger Ellis also has park dispatch report the incident to King Salmon State Troopers as well as Alaska Fish and Game, requesting that troopers meet the park rescue team at Kaflia Lake near Tim and Amies camp. Sunday night, and not during the day while Tim was normally out filming and interacting with bears. The author states "bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear, and this is the bear identified by Hertzog in Grizzley Man as the bear that probably killed Tim and Amie. This latter scenario can not be confirmed because thankfully for us the video tape ran out before it occurred.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-1','ezslot_12',123,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-1-0'); This incident occurred due to An unconventional person with unconventional behavior toward bears, camped in the middle of a very dangerous situation.. Why not rattlesnakes? Not to mention he ended up being responsible for several innocent Bears being killed, who would have likely never been SHOT if Idiot Treadwell had not offered himself as a MEAL, as he did. Tim later said he was sad that any bear would find him a threat. I, along with many others found it very curious that Tims possessions and ashes were handed over to Jewel Palovak and not to his parents. Only low growls and periodic grunts are heard which only adds to the horror of the scene. Without a doubt, Tim holds some of the responsibility for Amies death. The remains of Timothy Treadwell, 46, and Amie Huguenard, 37, both of Malibu, Calif., were found Monday at Katmai National Park and Preserve on the Alaska Peninsula. The pair visited Katmai National Park, which is situated in the Alaska Peninsula across Shelikof Strait from Kodiak Island, with the explorers girlfriend Amie, a physician assistant. He specialties include biometry, ecology, ethology, anddynamics of wildlife populations. 2003, AP Wire Interview. A bear killed Amie. Not the bodies, but just the torn-up camp and things like that etcAlso, has anyone went back to the site? Tims foolish disregard for his own safety, and over confidence dealing with bears in the past, luck really, not to mention his mistake of placing anthropomorphic values on bears, and disregarding established federal guidelines when photographing and camping with brown bears contributed to both Tim and Amies death. I was like a living Tiger Tank traversing the forest. How could a genuine naturalist move in such extremes? When he is about 3/4 way up the hill he senses that something just didnt feel right. More on this below too) (Readers Digest 2005). this website was the first result so i clicked it, read it & im glad i did. In the movie "Grizzly Man", I think it is rude and disrespectful when the man (I think a pilot if some sort, but not Willy) who says, "He (Treadwell) got what he deserved." If someone had told me back in October 2003 that I would be investigating and writing about this incident for several years, I would have laughed. I dont agree with everything said in this article but I appreciate & respect the time you put into it & that youre a true wildlife person. Autopsy images and audio of Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard. a 1" projectile traveling at least 1.560 feet per second would down a T-Rex at close range! Votes: 14 25.9% Run Like Hell! With animals he felt power something he could not control when he was molested. He lived among coastal brown bears (or grizzlies, Ursus arctos) in Katmai National Park, Alaska, for 13 summers. Timothy was clearly INSANE. Its a breathe of fresh air. For starters, Treadwell was an outsider, a Californian from the weird-wacky end of the scale, a guy sporting a shock of blond hair and a backward baseball cap, with the outdoors skills you'd expect of a former Malibu cocktail waiter. Votes: 6 11.1% Run Like Hell! Nice writing, straight facts and authors feelings and opinions later also on point. A final note on the movie Grizzly Man. Hechtel, John. Excellent article about Timothy Treadwell. Willy then lands again about 1 mile west of the camp on the western shore of the lake. In the mammal world. Knowing this, I think Amie was #1: Reluctant to leave the tent and approach and attack the bear that was on Tim right from the start of the attack and #2: Not knowledgeable enough about bears herself to know that this was not a typical bear encounter, and that once she was able to push the bear away and had moved over to Tim, that she needed to fight back aggressively to keep the bear from returning, and once the bear tested her and she ran or moved away from Tim, that this triggered a predatory instinct in the bear to protect its kill, and dragged Tim away to a safer location. Only way I found this was by following a citation link from another story.Pure accident.I agree Tim was probably bipolar.Have a friend and relative with it and his behaviours,beliefs and attitude are strikingly similar.Btw I get that the map is not to scale but the distances are off in a bad way.How can the distance from Tim to Amy be 30 m when a marked distance from a spot between them,to Amy,be 68 m? 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