But, are these people telling the truth? He asked me, "How does this incident square with what God says in Ezekiel 18:19-20?". His anger at the No silver or gold from that house. And it happened at the end of three days, after they had made a covenant with them, that they heard that they were their neighbors who dwelt near them. Why did God allow the Gibeonites to put to death seven of Sauls sons? I do not know when God through Samuel stripped him of the kingdom. What would be some verses from the Bible to save a marriage? But, the big thing was that he did not consult God about what he should do about it. It certainly happened because it says there in verses 1 and 2 that Saul killed a lot of Gibeonites at some point in his reign. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation" Psalm 24:4-5. David did all this, it seems, off the top of his head. Notice God declares that the bloodguilt was not just on Saul, but also his house. or who shall stand in his holy place? Share Is there something I'm missing? They have a discussion in the next few verses, and many Israelites want to go ahead and kill these Gibeonites for what they did. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. Jeiel, Sauls great-grandfather, was the progenitor of the Gibeonites ( 1 Chron 8:29-33; 9:35-39 ), so Saul slaughtered his own relatives! Leviticus 26:3-4 If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them, then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. If what happened against Gibeon occurred during Saul's reign, even if it was in the latter half, it would mean it was at least (if we are in the last decade of King David's reign) that the massacre of Gibeonites occurred 40 or 50 years earlier. The rest of the Canaanites resented the defection of the Hivites which so greatly weakened the forces for defense, and, headed by Adoni-zedek of Jerusalem, they assembled to wreak vengeance on Gibeon. Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. He enslaved them all, and made them wood cutters and menial laborers at the Tabernacle. September 01 2013 God did not perform a miracle to end this famine after these men were executed. He attempted the genocide of At most it was about ten miles awaynot very far at all. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. They didn't present themselves in a truthful light saying that they were neighbors who respected Israel's strength and godly advantage and were suing for peace. . And your strength shall be spent in vain; for your land shall not yield its produce, nor shall the trees of the land yield their fruit. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). "There's something rotten in Denmark," as the saying goes. And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of the LORD?" Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. 3. They fell for it hook, line, and sinker, and they were stuck. This may have only been a couple of months later. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. PHARAOH AND HAMAN - King David was compelled to hand over his own people to the power of Israel's ongoing enemies. King Saul (and his house?) The cities of refuge were designed (among other things) to stop and prevent these feuds from happening. WebVetus Testamentum 24:1 (January 1974):1-7.] WebNow, when they heard that the Gibeonites had made a special treaty with the Israelites they got very angry. So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. God revealed that this calamity happened because of "Saul and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites ." The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. Perhaps these last few verses suggest that, in burying the bones of Saul and Jonathan, David repented of his sins regarding this whole incident. WebThis points to their employment in the sanctuary; and possibly may shed some light on the massacre of the Gibeonites by Saul (2 Samuel 21:1). All they wanted, they said, was a peace treaty with Israel; then they would return to their distant home. David did not make any counter demands. It is the time of the beginning of the barley harvest. The Gibeonites were not Israelites, but the remnant of the Amorites, which Saul pursued from within Israel. So let seven of Sauls sons or grandsons be handed over to us, and we will execute them before the Lord at Gibeon, on the mountain of the Lord.. There was justice that was going to take place. Or as the Gibeonites said Saul consumed them and tried to destroy them a people Israel had entered into a covenant with 400 years earlier. So they thought, "Hmm. I think he was distracted by all the cares of his office of being king. Does the devil have power to make us sick? So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the For all his misguided efforts and pains, Saul reaped the fruits of his delusion. This is a major reason why the church of God does not subscribe to the traditional doctrine of "The Fall of Man." Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." King David was perhaps the only converted person in the entire nationmaybe besides the high priest of the time, but we do not know. And it very seriously affected his judgment in this matter. Then we have the explanations of which we just went over. There is not much wiggle room in all this. Saul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. He has mercy, and holds the curses to just a few generations, but He allows the results of doing righteousness to last forever. Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". We want them to reflect what a real person would do in extreme or extraordinary circumstances. "No, we don't do things like that in Israel. It would be the equivalent of an event somewhere between the Korean War and the Vietnam War. The Jewish Encyclopedia asserts that one group of rabbis felt that Saul's punishment at God's hands is a sign of his weak moral character whose only virtue was being tall and handsome. Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned for forty -two years over Israel. It would have been the answer. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. God said explicitly to destroy everything! How much food did Jesus produce? The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. In reading the Psalms, on the other hand, we get an idea of just how grateful he was for God's forgiveness and grace, because I believe he was aware of just what a rotten individual he really was. Why so? It does not seem so. WebThe Gibeonite Deception - Now when all the kings west of the Jordan heard about these thingsthe kings in the hill country, in the western foothills, and along the entire coast of the Mediterranean Sea as far as Lebanon (the kings of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites) they came together to wage war against Joshua and Summary:2 Samuel Chapter 212 Samuel 21 Avenging the Gibeonites A. David avenges the Gibeonites. Then, they went after Jericho, and it fell. Report King David came at it from a position of weakness, not of one who knew God's law and could answer these people from spiritual strength. This would be in the spring during or after the Days of Unleavened Bread. Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. WebWe will attack Gibeon, because they have made peace with Joshua and the Israelites." These conflicting views on Saul would continue long past the biblical era and into modern times. Our God has given us a law that says such and such, so this is what we are willing to do for you.". What have you been thinking about?". He then tells David that he can't marry Michal until he brings Saul 100 Philistine foreskins, thinking that David will definitely die in this attempt. A person dies for his own sins, not those committed by someone else, whether father, son, or black sheep uncle. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the L ORD. Web2 Samuel 21:2 indicates that King Saul pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off "in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah" (2 Samuel 21:5). Perhaps trickery will be better than war for us.". In effect, what they wanted to do was hang the bodies of Saul's family in Saul's hometown in sight of Jerusalem. WebTheir apostasy began with the Hivites from Gibeon, and in time, the leaven slowly spread. "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? David did not come to this with any regal neutrality in the least. The Gibeonites merely asked for a mutual help pact that would guarantee not only mercy and aid from Israel, but protection from their common enemies. So they performed all that the king commanded. How many died in sicknesses? Lets read about David avenging the Gibeonites in 2 Samuel 21:1-14: 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. He just let them walk all over him. fit into Creation? So they answered Joshua and said, "Because your servants were clearly told that the LORD your God commanded His servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you.". Saul became a bit strange in the head after this, if you will remember. It says that they were Saul's sons. It won't do anybody any good lying here dead. Ezekiel 18:19-20 Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' He understood it. He realized how often, and how far, he strayed from God's way of life. David may have begun to think about this now, "What is going on here? The problem was that God had not told Saul to do this, God had told Joshua to do that. He had to sit there and judge people with all the little things they constantly brought up to him that seemed to need his decision on. God spared them as a people, but His nation condemned them to endless servitude. So David asked the Lord for help, and the Lord answered, Saul and his family are guilty of murder, because he had the Gibeonites killed. SERIES INTRODUCTION Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. As Christians living amidst spiritual famine, we dare not compromise with the culture around us. That is the bottom line. ", The Gibeonites, we are told, were not necessarily a warlike people. So he brought up the bones of Saul and the bones of Jonathan his son from there; and they gathered the bones of those who had been hanged. This shows that this portion of the story in II Samuel 21, hanging the bodies for six months or so, was an additional curse upon the land. Joshua kept his word to the Gibeonites even when it was inconvenient. Fifty years ago was 1957. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." And Agag, he's a nice guy! lorraine goode. But, he did not. He allowed his actions to be dictated by the Gentile principle of retributionvengeancerather than God's law on such matters. It shows you just how far things had sunk in the land. God only let the rain cycle start again. They did not inquire. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. However, that is not the case. Other people do not carry the guilt for that person's sin. They probably went from Gibeon by some circuitous route so they did not come directly from the west where they actually lived. They looked to Him and were radiant, and their faces were not ashamed. The person who commits a sin is guilty of that sin, and God punishes that person for that sin. There was a great deal of turmoil in Israel leading up to this time. There is no biblical account of this escapade of Saul and his house against Gibeon. Please ensure your answer MEETS all our guidelines. We know that you said not to make a covenant with the people the land. It did not come the next week, or the next month, or the month after that, all through the summer and into the fall holy days. DESTRUCTION AND CORRUPTION And how do I know this? Each generation had to live out its days as "hewers of wood and carriers of water". By this time, Moses had died and was buried. DECEPTION AND COST And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. And David sought the face of the Lord. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. (1) A three-year famine prompts David to seek God. It is his sin. Her actions made David realize that he had violated another of God's commands by leaving the bodies of Saul, Jonathan, and the seven other sons unburied. And when Saul saw any strong man or any valiant man, he took him for himself. There was not a cloud in sight and you are the king. In the economy of God's providence, however, such tiny events often matter much. God is just. Then Ishbi-Benob, who was one of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose bronze spear was three hundred shekels, who was bearing a new sword, thought he could kill David. but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. It does not require at all times that a person guilty of bloodshed die. This indicates that God was not pleased, whatsoever, with how this situation was resolved by David. There is no want to those who fear Him. CONFLICT OF THE AGES ARTICLES WebA three years' famine in the days of David was attributed to God's anger at the unexpiated crime of Saul in slaying the Gibeonites. Verse 1 did say that it was "Saul and his bloodthirsty house" who had massacred the Gibeonites. This is very, very important for this vignette in King David's life. It comes as a snare, Christ says, on everybody. So, give or take, 40 to 50 years have passed. What do we do in a time of spiritual famine? II Samuel 21:8-9 So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. Weba motive for Saul's attack on them. Another possibility is that when Saul slew many of the priests at Nob he also executed many Gibeonites (1 Samuel 22:19). We still need some more background. However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". For many today, this time period is ancient history. Gibeon was situated very close to Gibeah the home town of Sauls family. David was annonted by Sammuel Apr 10, 1035. Let's see what's in our bag of tricks. Think about this for a moment. Even so, maybe there were even worse problems, perhaps, and David was blind to them for three years. The Lord told them they had made a commitment to these people and they had to stand by it. You cannot tell. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. Why are they where they were? You are no longer fit to be king." Let me ask God about this. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. And if He sinned, then He could not be our Savior. Israel had to live with those consequences for years to come. But, very few people can relate to sinless perfection. What did David do to end the famine caused by Saul breaking a treaty with the Gibeonites? Saul's bones are still in Jabesh-Gilead. However, there was a difference between Israel's version and the Gentiles' principle of vengeance or retribution. He did this "in his zeal for. For unknown reasons, Joshua and the elders of Israel quickly bit on this proposal. There is a very important difference. Just tell me and I will do it for you.. He did not negotiate at all. The time had passed. 12 Saul said, Listen now, son of Ahitub.. This has become known as the "eye for an eye principle." WebThe Gibeonites Hang Saul's Descendants 21 While David was king, there were three years in a row when the nation of Israel could not grow enough food. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. persecuted and killed the Gibeonites men in a covenant relationship with Israel who served at the tabernacle. It is not pretty when we allow the people of the land to dictate to us. Whatever the case, it is very plain to me that he did not pay enough attention to this matter of the famine and drought, and the Gibeonites. How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? The soul who sins shall die. WebWhen God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. WebSaul slew the Gibeonites, not simply as the son of Kish, but as the king of Israel, and therefore involved all Israel with him in the violation of the national oath; and hence, until the evil should be put away by the execution of the immediate offender or his representatives, all Israel must suffer. He just simply rolled over. Was John the Baptist conceived via an immaculate conception? Finally, after six or seven months, the rains came in their natural cycle. 21:1-11 ). In fact, look down to verse 15, II Samuel 21:15-17 When the Philistines were at war again with Israel, David and his servants with him went down and fought against the Philistines; and David grew faint. God was not in all his thoughts during this time. Does the Bible encourage the practice of Lent? And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. We are not finished with that yet, because, who were the Gibeonites? And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." And the Lord said, There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. 2 So the king called the Gibeonites and Something is wrong, David. If a person sins, he receives God's judgment for those sins. We have all followed in the same way of life as our first parents Adam and Eve. To re-establish peace between the two tribes, David fulfills the Gibeonites request to sacrifice two heirs of Israels throne, Sauls sons and grandsons. Therefore, the world is full of sintheir own sin. This incident appears in time sequence toward the end of his life. He tried to come up with a compromise, and that was basically, "Whatever you want, you can have." They had a more bloody and violent systemwhich often led to blood feuds that may not ever end until a whole family or generation was gone. The Gibeonites deceived Israel, but God's people had really deceived themselves. He was humble and relied on God, and was granted many victories over Israels enemies. Things started to go downhill over time however, as Saul became presumptuous and arrogant; he ignored several direct commands of God, and the last straw came when he interfered in offering a sacrifice to God, in direct contravention of what hed been told to do. WebKing Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. 1. Much later, King Saul ignored this covenant of peace and killed some Gibeonites. Joshua 9:25-27 "And now, here we are, in your hands; do with us as it seems good and right to do to us." God isn't very pleased that these bodies have been exposed for six months against His law.". And the king said, "I will give them.". There were not very many of them left. Moreover, the Gibeonites who survived remembered, and they wanted blood when they were asked. Now, we move forward, not very long in time, to Joshua 9. Perhaps he thought, "Hmm. One of them toward the end of this list is King David. They were probably in middle age, 45-60. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. Something is wrong. There should have been payment for it. Share Why is it just now that you are waking up to this? What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. He was thinking about a lot of other things. EVIL'S ULTIMATE END. Jew or gentile? (Now the Gibeonites were not Israelites, but a remnant of the Amorites. It's much too heavy any more!" Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. LAMECH: FALL OUT FROM POLYGAMY; I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. & "Take heed that you be not deceived." WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. And then King David inquired of the Lord. Although the people of Israel had sworn to spare them, Saul had sought to strike them down in his zeal for the people of Israel and Judah. You are getting later and later in David's life here. He had a body of law that he could have referred back to and come up with a solution. God told Joshua to get rid of all these foreigners in the land. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. David was Born Mar 2, 2022 A three-year famine occurs as a result of Sauls attack on the Gibeonites Mar 2, 2022. They do what their flesh tells them to dowhat Satan inspires them to want to doand they do it. Then the men of David swore to him, saying, "You shall go out no more with us to battle, lest you quench the lamp of Israel.". God affirms that the famine is punishment for Sauls massacre of the Gibeonites, who had been protected by a treaty since the Israelites first invaded the Promised Land ( Joshua 9:127 ). These are the two hints. The breach of contract was serious enough that God sent the famine in response. Web11 Then the king sent for the priest Ahimelek son of Ahitub and all the men of his family, who were the priests at Nob, and they all came to the king. There is a difference. THE STORY OF THE GIBEONITES - Numbers 35:34 "Therefore do not defile the land which you inhabit, in the midst of which I dwell; for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.'". WebThe designation Nethinim is derived from the Hebrew verb natan ("to give over"), which can mean devoting someone to cultic service. (Mark 6:20). This poor man cried out, and the LORD heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. I am just going to start with the backdrop to the incident. Share God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. So the famine continued for another half a year. They are still there. 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