Nice idea for a thread, but does anyone have experience with carmina's wide width options? Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. While a bespoke suit might of course feel a bit better in how it fits and how you can move, it isnt really more comfortable and better for the health of your body compared to a midrange full canvas suit, in the same way as bespoke shoes. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. Quality control for us sticklers has been in question dating back to the aughts. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! Kenton 10D: Great roomy fit for boots with thick/medium socks; good snug fit for LWB with thin socks/sockless. I would note that although the shoes I own have tight sole stitching, C&J models without pinking on the soles (for example, the Sydney with rubber soles) are noticeably less sleek. I appreciate that it takes time and skill and thus affects cost, it just doesnt matter a ton to me as it doesnt have a meaningful effect on how the shirt wears or looks. Thanks a lot Simon. The latter will in general be more durable, since its thicker and consists of all the parts of the leather. Over the course of the day they tend to pinch my toes rather than stretching to accommodate my feet, as my C&J and Weston do. Im looking to acquire a couple of pairs of tassel loafers (one dark brown suede and one black calf). It is still quite hard to fathom the yearly price increases on EG shoes given their pitiful customer service. I have also tried on shoes from Yanko and Septieme Largeur. That would be much less possible for me at higher price points. By far the highest quality of any of the brands on this list (and in my opinion, the most elegant lasts). Theyre all Spanish except Septieme Largeur, which is French but made in Spain. I brought a pair of black Oxford brogues in a classic last for 109 that were from the previous season and a pair of Dark Leaf Calf Oxfords for 150 that had a negligible fault (even the staff had to look it up as it wasnt obvious). Its a comfortable, yet roomy fit. Have you ever tried or heard of Idrese? Perhaps someone will find them useful: 1. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. If you are in the market for a pair of elegant footwear, Id recommend for you duly consider buying the Carmina shoes. I dont know anybody who owns a Mont Blanc wallet, but I know plenty of people who own Mont Blanc pens, and I dont see that ever changing. They've seen a lot of rain, snow, slush and worst of all, salt. Although, suede uppers would take a long time to wear out. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. At Styleforum, youll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. Morjas is similar in having a cleaner make, and is a touch more expensive than the other two. Grant Stone Oliver 9D: Great fit. Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. Feel free to include any additional information about your feet, such as: Specific circumferential measurements (as requested by Bakers, Russell Moccasin, etc). Berwick uses corrected grain for some of its models (this is what stopped me from buying a pair). There are many levels at tanneries, and cheaper brands dont get the same quality or the first selection. Perhaps more time and break in on the stiff leather sole would make it work. Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. , yet they settle for shoes at a, relatively speaking, much lower level. Their online interface is very easy to use, and being able to make these selection is so much better than being constrained to the ready-made options a manufacturer has selected. Yeah, Luca Rubinacci apparently also has a cooperation with them, which frankly I dont understand, Just for info, Velasca in Italy does have a selection of shoes that are Goodyear welted:https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear Im really tempted to name and praise (as opposed to name and shame! You are of course free to think that theres better sources than Shoegazing. At least in the States, TLB comes in less expensive than C&J even after the customization upcharge and even if you select the higher-quality Artista line. Of course second pairs usually come out better, and know there can be customers nagging on very small things, but certainly doesnt sound like it in your case. Take for instance Santoni, Prada or S. Ferragamo. I was very impressed with the integrity of your website after reading IS THIS AN ADVERT? Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. However, I would recommend ones like TLB and Skolyx that I have had experience with. He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. Meermin HOK 8.5E UK: Pretty decent fit with boot socks. Because my older Carmina heel stiffener are longer and substantial that the newer ones. In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out, https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/, https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/, https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113, https://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6, https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear. In fact, it is the favourite last for the Albaladejo family. However to their credit, Loakes customer service was excellent. It is something that is destroying the reputation not only for these brands but for bespoke shoes in general. Somehow lower instep than E? The Alden cordovan color of the shoe is achieved by a plastic pellicule which shaves rather quickly to reveal a light brown leather underneath. RUI 9: Great fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. Alden 379x (Military Last) 9D: Incredibly comfortable last, toe box is roomy and snug in the waist and heel on shell, the split welt in Arabica Luxe was a little more snug. In terms of value I would say CJ handgrade. It is tough to find quality hand-welted shoes for the price that Meermin shoes are being sold for. Indeed the leather is really stiff. Viberg 2020 8.5 Stitchdown: Pretty snug, cannot wear boot socks in. My understanding is that AE is below the likes of Crocketts in terms of make, but thats based on the input of people like Jesper who know more about them than I do. Roomy toe box, heel is snug and hugs my foot all around. The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. Probably also worth mentioning the Carlos Santos brand from Portugal in this price bracket. Bought before I understood my size. Everything I have is at the level of Crockett & Jones Handgrade or above, and most are Edward Green. Ive mostly moved to bespoke now due to my weird feet, but I do own a pair of Morjas suede chukkas that I use in bad weather. . Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. Its a standard Goodyear shoe, with no fuss. In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out his buyer's guide here. Dont buy both together though do buy one then the other, just to make sure you do like that style and fit etc. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Giro bike shoes: 45.5 EU - Great fit. Any feedback from you on this brand. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? When changing the width of a shoe e.g. "But at the same time, I do think you get better value now for a 200 shoe than you did 10 years ago, despite inflation, because theres so much more competition. My favorite last for standing long periods. I suppose they get away with it because the overwhelming majority of their customers arent that knowledgeable about shoes or leather quality. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. Bought before I understood my size. Vass (via Ascot) here. Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Carmina Simpson 8.5UK: Tried for oxfords but had to return, instep was too low for closed lacing. They have done a small amount of RTW for a while, its just enlarged recently. I have had a very different experience with EG service. all have factory shops if you are looking for a classic style but at a price closer to a discounted Loake. I now have 3 different pairs on that Cheaney last. Trickers appears to have a wider breadth to me, especially in country shoes and boots in lots of leathers and colours. They look nice to me, but as I have only been buying shoes from British shoemakers, I am unsure whether their last may look showy or unusual comparison. I have experienced Cheaney a fair bit, my first two pairs of English shoes were from Cheaney main line (I still have one of them), plus I have worn Cheaneys imperial range as well as C&J mainline shoes. Note: this is for the old China models. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. Good arch support that's sculpted to he foot instead of the PNW Ladder rung shape. Stretched to become a bit too loose with heel slip note these are unlined, * **Yanko 915** 8UK, a bit loose at the heel, * **Zonkey Boot Classic** 8UK great fit but stiffeners are stiff, Brannock: 9D/E (on a printed paper brannock). One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Meermin Ron 8E UK: Snug in every direction and noticeably narrow, but wearable with no socks. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. **Notes about feet:** Left foot pretty much bang on 9D, right foot maybe 9.25D. Goto-san requires tracings to be sized in these and you really should have them done. s. It is my impression that, notwithstanding Cleverleys arm-waving and misdirection regarding their provenance, the Cleverely RTW are made by C&J. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. Its actually something well touch on in our upcoming piece looking at budgets and capsule wardrobes. 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